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Does BOA offer Cash 4 Keys?

I’ve had limited interaction with Bank of America. And what I have had has never been favorable.

I am aware of how Fannie handles posting of the KYO form and cash for keys documents.

I have a friend renting a local home, a letter came in the mail today stating that foreclosure proceedings have begun and will expect occupant to vacant the home prior to HUD taking the house over. (60 to 90 days)

Then the letter states that if HUD does not take it over there will be other options.

My question is will this tenant experience a knock on the door by an agent requesting cash for keys agreement?

Or if HUD does take the house over, will HUD offer a cash for keys?

Or will there be a cash for keys of any kind offered?

I thank you in advance.

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Ohhhhh the Moratorium

Its been about 5 years since I started in this REO indurstry.  Progressively, the game has changed and things have become harder and harder to deal with on a small level.  I have 18 employees and 20 sales agents, so we get it all done here.  But now, during the same time every year, we have these 2-3 weeks of nothingness.  What I don't understand is why there is a moratorium?  Listen, I have a heart, and I understand people do fall onto bad times, but c'mon.  You took out a mortgage a few years ago, that you, your wife, your children, you parents, friends, etc all knew you couldn't afford.  But, it was the "american Dream" so you did it and never looked back, until you couldn't make a payment anymore!  IF you are a tenant of a foreclosed property, I truly feel for you, and I will do anything I can to help you out during these times.  I have tenants all the time who tell me they have been making their payments for 2 years and they cant understand how this happened.  You DESERVE CASH FOR KEYS.  

 

So now what, the banks out the 300k they gave you, your living in a house that you don't pay for, the bank is paying your taxes and utilities, and you cant even leave the house in good shape when you leave!  Show some pride and be amicable and get out when you stop paying!  There is no reason a bank should have to pay you a Cash for Keys of even a dollar!  You should just leave!  Lets think about this logically, I buy a car for 50,000.  I pay 5,000 up front and i'm left with a payment of about 1,000 a month.  If I stop paying for the car, does the car company come to my house and offer to give me THOUSANDS of dollars to give them the car back?  No, they hire a tow truck company, and come take the thing off my driveway!!

 

On top of all the ridiculousness of people living in houses that they cant afford, I am a born and bred New Yorker.  In this lovely state, we are referred to as an "Attorney State" and a "Landlord State".  So, on average, it takes about TWO YEARS, yes TWO YEARS, to get a foreclosure completed here.  So thats TWO YEARS of not making a payment to the bank, before they can even have the DEED for the property!!!  Then if I still don't want to leave, guess what?  I can usually stay another 1-3 years while the LANDLORD (The foreclosing bank) tried to EVICT me!!!  So in essence, I can live in a house, with NO EXPENSE, for 3-5 years!  Why on EARTH does it take this long?  And then, to top it all off, the banks are nice enough to stop "evicting" people during Thanksgiving, and this year between December 20th-January 3rd.  Now, although it seems like the "right thing to do", if the eviction of a homeowner happens to fall during that time, let them go live back home with their parents until they can afford to move out, OR use the past 3-5 years of mortgage, tax, utility payments that you have NOT made, and go rent a place you can ACTUALLY AFFORD!!!

 

I guess I would really just like to see the 7.5 million houses that are in the backlog (The gloomy shadow inventory) come to market.  Maybe we can actually stabalize the housing prices if we sell off the homes we need to in order for the market to correct itself.  :)

 

 

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New Moratorium

Well it seems that now some of the big banks are freezing foreclosure procedures due to their inavility to comply with local laws and regulations that protect the home owners or delay the foreclosure procedures, it seems that some lenders have rush the foreclosure procedures and broke the laws. First started wtih GMAC, then Chase, now Bank of America.

There are several issues with this new moratorium, first there will be more banks adding to this list, and this mess might not be sorted out until March or May of next year, that might be done on purpose because the GSE are pushing for the lender to take action on the late loans, see the news on Wells Fargo last week. http://www.dsnews.com/articles/wells-fargo-puts-stop-to-short-sale-extensions-2010-10-01. Also the OCC ordered the Largest Servicers to review their foreclosure process. This might not affect us because they are liquidating their inventory little by little to avoid a really hard crash and decline of propery values, lets face it, with low prices, low interest and no one is buying, it is hard to say if it is because they are not lending or because there is very little confidence from buyers, but also at the end of the day we all need shelter, so it makes sense to purchase now, and I have seen several potential buyer not been able to qualify for a home mortgage loan.

The other problem I see is the rumble from lawyers and previouse owners, who will try to sue the lenders for not been in compliance with the federal and local laws and regulations of the foreclosure procedures, etc. I did a cash for key on Saturday, and the borrower just kept asking me if my client was following the right procedures, if they were going to join Bank of America and Chase with this issue, etc.

It is going to be interesting to follow this new moratorium, because of the political impact and the possible impact it might have in the business. I think if the foreclosure process was not done correctly, then what would they do, if the house is already sold, can the courts reverse the sales, etc, then we will have the issue of the current owner. Most likely this would be ratified with money, how much? morally the prevoius borrower was in default, but I am sure there could be damages, etc. Would the courts and the credit bureus wipe out the "Foreclosure" from their records so maybe if their finances have change they can get a loan, would the lender try to work something where they can put the previous owner with a new loan or similar loan to the previuos one in one of their houses.

As REO agents I think is important for us to do as many Cash for Keys as possible, this way the previous owner has agreed to relinquish his/her home to the bank, but I am sure there are some loopholes there too. Well maybe the new assignments from the bank would be more like deed in lieu with a lot of legal terms to protect the bank, and I hope we can have the right documents to protect ourselves just in case,

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Bad occupant, no cash!

I had to do three Cash for Keys today. And it's labor day. An REO agent's work is never done. The first one went smooth as silk. Exept that the guy didn't actually have the keys. A lot of that going around. "We never lock the doors, I don't know where the keys are." I believe it. That's how it is out here. Bucolic, like.Fortunately, I always bring my locksmith with me when I do my CFK. No keys, no problem, especially when the doors are at least unlocked.I had not actually been able to confirm with the second CFK that I'd be coming by. I'd been calling for a couple of days, but nobody had answered. Still, though, I had been in somewhat frequent communication with the occupant, and we were very clear that the CFK date was today, and he knew what was expected of him.The locksmith and I arrive at the second CFK - the front yard is just full of stuff: furniture, clothes, brick-a-brack. Fortunately, the house is indeed empty, as is the back yard. Unfortunately, the former owners had illegally converted the garage to living space and built an illegal unit in back and an illegal bathroom. Hate it when that happens. Anyway, I said hey, sorry, I can't really give you the money until all your stuff is gone. But do you mind if I have the locks changed now that all your stuff is out?They said sure, no problem, we're done. So I talked for about 30 minutes with the señora in Spanish, while the locksmith went about his business. We agreed I'd come back the next day once all the stuff was gone out of the front yard and I'd give them the check. They gave me six baskets of fresh picked blackberries from a local commercial blackberry grower. Last time they gave me raspberries. Nice folks.Next, on to Cash for Keys #3. This guy was one slippery character during the CFK negotiation. Although we were clear what his responsibilities were (e.g. to leave the place clean and with no debris, trash, or personal property left inside or outside the house) - what did I find? Well, he did a pretty good job on the inside. But the outside was still littered with stuff. Paint. PVC piping. Buckets. Garden tools. Tiles. You get the picture.A heated conversation ensued. Well, the heat was mostly on his end. He wanted me to show him the check. Yeah right! He said he'd sue me for not giving him the check. I said, "Go ahead, you won't get too far, you haven't held up your end of the deal." He said he'd finish cleaning it up today. Alas, the sun was already setting in the west, and I never do a CFK after dark, because it's easy to miss stuff. I told him I'd have to come back tomorrow.And so I shall. Tomorrow's going to be another busy day in the REO business. God bless it.
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Careful with that foreclosure notice!

Yesterday, I was assigned a new property out in the country. I drove out there after completing a Cash for Keys with a property closer in to town. I approached the subject property and parked outside the driveway. There was a big truck parked by the side of the house - but it was a commercial vehicle, not a personal vehicle. I went down and knocked on the door - nobody home, but by all appearances, someone was still living there.I went back to my car, grabbed my camara, and took a bunch of pictures. I got back in my car, and saw that a neighbor lady had come out of her house and was kind of standing by the side of the road, looking like she wanted to talk to me. I pulled up to her, opened my window, and said, "Hi!"She asked why I was taking the pictures? "I'm casing the joint," I deadpanned. Ha ha, no, just kidding - I'm a professional, not a comedian, and certainly not a professional comedian. No no, what I really said was, "Well, it looks like your neighbor here lost the house to foreclosure."Thereupon we embarked upon a little friendly conversation about the wave of foreclosures that is going on, how bad the economy is, how this particular neighbor had been having problems for a long time (divorce, apparently), etc. We spoke for a few minutes, and I gave her my card, and said not to worry, the house wouldn't be boarded up, it will probably be sold pretty quickly, and hopefully the property will be sold to some sold owners. I asked her to please call me if she sees anything funny going on over at the house.And with that, I drove away. As sometimes happens, though, I started to wonder - did I get the right house? What if I made a mistake, and that wasn't the right address? I would have just posted an occupancy check notice on the door of some house that wasn't foreclosed on, and told the nieghbor lady that the house had just been lost to foreclosure! D'oh!And then this morning, as I'm sipping my coffee, browsing my RSS New Reader, I see a story in the local newspaper:From [The Santa Cruz Sentinel - Oops! Foreclosure notice in error]Bob Richter was puzzled when a man rushed up to his home in Santa Cruz Gardens one Saturday and posted a foreclosure notice offering him cash to turn in his house keys. The man took a photo of the posted notice, then left.Richter and his wife bought the house in 1977, and the mortgage is paid.It turned out the posting was in error.I hate it when that happens! Actually, it's never happened to me - the occupant of the house did call me a few hours later, and we've already worked out a cash-for-keys deal, so as soon as the lender sends over the task to work it out, I'll reply immediately with the details and get the ball rolling on it. All in a day's work.Happy 4th of July everyone!
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Tales from a CFK Completion

The days on the calendar swirled by, and before you know it, two months and a week had passed, and it was time to do the actual Cash for Keys - get the keys from the former owners, and give him the keys, and everyone goes on their merry way.I don't know how it is with everyone else, but here's how my CFK goes. A day or two before, I call up the former owner and arrange a time to do the exchange. I go over the requirements again (that the place be clean, the appliances in place, etc.), and say OK, see you then. I then call the locksmith to reconfirm the time and address, and then at the appointed date and time, I meet the locksmith out at the property.Almost invariably, the former occupants are not ready to go. They are usually still packing up. I can't fork over the cash (a check, actually) until I see that everything is loaded up. So, I usually stand around, chat with the locksmith, the former owner, etc., while I take interior photos for the listing BPO.Yesterday,this is just what happened - I show up, the former owners aren't quite ready to go, so I stand around for an hour or so while they finish up and the locksmith goes about his business. I got to chatting with the former owner - a nice guy, too bad he lost the house and all. He's from Mexico, and he doesn't speak English, so, as with about 1/2 of these deals, we converse in Spanish.Kind of an interesting conversation. He said he hadn't made a mortgage payment in a year. "A year?!" I said. "Well, at least six months, maybe year." Wow, at $4K a month in mortgage payments, that's a lot of dough. And of course, he gets the CFK money, too - although he only asked for $500.I asked him what his plan was. They were going to rent, and then buy another house. It seems they had saved up quite a nest egg, not paying anything for rent or mortgage the past 6-12 months - enough for a down payment for sure, especially with this groovy new FHA financing they have out here, which he already knew a good deal about. There were a number of adults living there, and only one of them had been on title - plenty of un-affected credit reports out there. And now, home prices are 1/2 of what they were two years ago when this guy had bought - the perfect time to buy!I gave him my card (again) and said if he knows someone who wants to buy a house, please call me. And I do believe he will. Who'da thunk.
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Getting the ball rolling

Hi,I'm Seb Frey - the Real Estate Guy. Catchy, huh? :) I have a couple of blogs that I already maintain - one at my main web site, SantaCruzHomeBroker.com - the other is on ActiveRain, which I don't really post on too often - mostly, I just put my REO listings on there.I don't talk too much about the REO side of my business on my own blog on my main site. I kind of want that blog to be a general-purpose real estate blog for buyers and sellers. I do mention REOs and foreclosures and short sales quite a bit on that blog, but mostly in passing.I think it will be nice to have a 3rd blog set up which I can write just about the REO part of my business - which at this point is about 80% of what I am doing, and the other 20% seems to be working with buyers on short sales and REOs, since that's where the best deals are to be had these days, for the most part.I think I'll just use this as a space to kind of write about the ins and outs of my business, so you can see what kind of issues come up and how I handle them. Please, tell me what I'm doing wrong. :)Today, I got a new property assignment from my favorite A#1 client, PAS (Premiere Asset Services, the REO arm of Wells Fargo). It was for a house out in Aptos - in a pretty nice older subdivision. Unfortunately, this part of the subdivision is a bit close to the freeway so you get some road noise, but hey, how often do you come across an REO property that's really just perfect in every way?The property had recently been on the market, but was just withdrawn 2 days ago. It hadn't been marked as vacant, so I figured I would find someone home. I printed out a copy of the Affordable Housing Guide for Santa Cruz County, which lists a bunch of local government agencies that help people find affordable housing - not like this house was cheap, it had been bought a couple of years ago for around $900,000 (can you say "top of the market"?). The guide also has legal resources - so people can learn their rights as someone who's been foreclosed on and is facing eviction, and it also contains contact information for transitional housing and shelters, for people who have kids, for example, and are freaked out that they'll literally be put on the streets, which isn't quite the case.Nice enough house, the landscaping overgrown, of course. I knocked on the door, a ferocious sounding dog barked in reply, after a minute or so the door was opened by a big tall guy, clearly not the Mary who was listed as the owner.Turns out, it was her grown son, late 20's, I'd say. Apparently, mom had fled the scene, leaving him with the house. "She told me she worked something out with her old Realtor where I could stay here through the summer," he told me. Yeah, right. I told him I didn't know anything about that, but in any event, I'd be negotiating a cash for keys deal with him, and how soon could he be out?We'll see how it goes. That's the most interesting thing that happened in an otherwise slow news day - lots of phone calls, lots of administrativa for the dozen or so escrows I have going now. I'll write again soon.
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